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瞎就瞎吧,还是选择小米 14 ultra 或 mix flod 3

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  •   zicheqingluo · 165 天前 · 5674 次点击
    这是一个创建于 165 天前的主题,其中的信息可能已经有所发展或是发生改变。
    主要还是因为有另一个 8p 做主力使用,安卓备用+玩点游戏+拍照,主要是像提升下拍照体验,单纯就拍照来看 14ultra 和 mix flod 3 ,哪个强一点呢。
    mix flod 3 优势:折叠屏,三星 e6 屏幕,屏大对眼睛好点
    14 ultra 优势:莱卡合作的相机有优势

    性能过剩的时代,不看 cpu 了,没事太大意义,都大差不差,90 分可以了
    44 条回复    2024-06-25 11:34:44 +08:00
    Hoshea219
        1
    Hoshea219  
       165 天前
    考虑拍照的话,我记得 fold 3 评测的影像能力逊于 13 ultra ,但白天还是能达到七八成的水准。所以我的评价是 14 ultra > 13 ultra > fold 3
    玩游戏两者性能大差不差,基本都能玩
    还是取决于你自身想要更极致的影像 or 能变大的屏幕
    243205964
        2
    243205964  
       165 天前
    14U 强,可以试试。
    zicheqingluo
        3
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       165 天前
    @Hoshea219 我是想,更大的屏幕和拍照二者权衡下,大屏幕是为了让眼睛好受点。内心还是想要拍照更好的。没想到的是 13ultra 也比 flod 3 强吗,flod3 和 14 ultra 不都是 23 年的
    zicheqingluo
        4
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       165 天前
    @243205964 看来 14 是压倒性的优势,怪不得 flod 3 降价了
    Karte
        5
    Karte  
       165 天前
    我选 K70 PRO
    Hoshea219
        6
    Hoshea219  
       165 天前
    @zicheqingluo #3 14u 是 24 年的,是 13u 的迭代款。毕竟 fold3 厚度摆在那儿,摄像头硬件本身要比 ultra 差点。
    coffeesun
        7
    coffeesun  
       165 天前   ❤️ 1
    能忍受瞎的话,pixel 8p 拍照就蛮好啊
    juded
        8
    juded  
       165 天前
    真的有人买小米的折叠么...
    fydss
        9
    fydss  
       165 天前
    有 1 说 1 ,家里人在用华为的 MATE5 折叠也不怎么样,又发热,又有很明显的折痕,应用适配也就那样 玩游戏也不方便
    looo
        10
    looo  
       165 天前
    折叠用 vivo x fold 3 啊
    catamaran
        11
    catamaran  
       165 天前
    我一个卖手机的朋友说想拍照好的话,可以考虑 vivo 。vivo 拍照这么强吗?
    maleclub
        12
    maleclub  
       164 天前 via Android
    14u 各种 bug 用到你怀疑人生,具体去哔哩哔哩找下,身边有用用的退坑了,备用机可以,主力机千万别入。
    VwEI
        13
    VwEI  
       164 天前
    x fold3pro 或者 x100p 不好嘛
    crocoBaby
        14
    crocoBaby  
       164 天前
    前天刚去小米店试机了,果断 mix flod 3,还能当平板用,而且不重
    boluo
        15
    boluo  
       164 天前 via Android
    8p 是不错,生命周期足够长
    senl
        16
    senl  
       164 天前
    13U 手持在用,考虑性价比我觉得 13U ,因为你当备用机来用,感觉没必要上 14U ,除非你平时有拍微距的需求,如果只是风景人文抄底 13U 就行了,差距没那么大的;

    另外,X100Pro 的调教可能更讨喜,你可实地考察决定
    zicheqingluo
        17
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       164 天前
    @fydss 玩游戏不方便也是没啥用了,指望展开能有二倍镜的效果是没戏了
    zicheqingluo
        18
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       164 天前
    @looo o v 的性价比让我很难受啊
    zicheqingluo
        19
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       164 天前
    @catamaran 仅仅只是因为 ov 利润大吧
    zicheqingluo
        20
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       164 天前
    @boluo 如果不是因为不带壳摔的话,还能继续用,能上图的话一定给你们看看我的手机摔得啥样了,屏幕碎了 3 年了,没换过屏,正面 1 个角摔的漏出电路,背面摄像头那钢板都漏出来了,就这样我换了块电池继续用。
    zicheqingluo
        21
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       164 天前
    @senl 13u 14u 摄像头差距大吗,miui 用习惯了,接受不了其他系统了,要不然肯定 p70 。小米之家说小米的卫星通信需要开套餐是真的吗
    zicheqingluo
        22
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       164 天前
    @maleclub 我去看看
    VwEI
        23
    VwEI  
       163 天前
    @zicheqingluo #21 p70 拍摄有啥好的?还不如小米呢
    senl
        24
    senl  
       163 天前
    @zicheqingluo 我没试过在逆光、暗光等场景,但是基本上看大神们的出图,其实基本上是一样的,但是看你有没有拍摄细小物体,例如虫子,近距离拍花朵的需求,这个如果有需要 13U 基本是很拉胯的,但是拍风景、拍人文,我就觉得差距没有那么大,我带去看演唱会也是拍的清清楚楚(前排)

    卫星通信这个玩意你不会需要的,99%的人都不需要,套餐肯定要开啊,其实就是本质上硬件支持+套餐支持,例如 5G 手机这么个情况
    shuianqingfeng
        25
    shuianqingfeng  
       163 天前
    14u 频闪还行 算是一流梯队
    Maiiiiii
        26
    Maiiiiii  
       162 天前
    拍照大概是 v>o>mi
    Garphy
        27
    Garphy  
       162 天前
    拍照肯定 U 强于 fold 。
    至于说 vivo 拍照好的,以前我给老妈买的 12su ,今年刚换了一台 vivo X100 pro ,我妈好像挺嫌弃的···
    我也是更喜欢徕卡的人文质感,以及不那么锐化不那么假。
    zicheqingluo
        28
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       160 天前
    @senl 华为的卫星通信也要开套餐吗
    zicheqingluo
        29
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       160 天前
    @Garphy 是的
    zicheqingluo
        30
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       160 天前
    b 站看了一天评测,就算是海军也难免暴露出小米 14u>vivo>p70 ,硬件方面米>vivo 、p70 ,算法 vivo 略领先主要体现在硬件一般还能和米某些情况下打,华为整体不行,但有的 up 主在小米、华为各某些地方不好的时候用词天差地别,华为就是“也还行” 小米就是“烂”。不过华为硬件拉跨全靠 AI ,确实有本质的差别,太假了,视频就没法参与评测了太烂。vivo 有点强确实没想到,但确实有点东西,反观小米就是硬件拉满,徕卡加持,算法优化,整体第一
    zicheqingluo
        31
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       160 天前
    @zicheqingluo 这里还体现在,华为的算法比较激进,就是会自行脑补,比如他看见了天,就一定要脑部成蓝天,有天就有云,总之就是现实是什么不重要,应该是什么就画什么,确实是 AI 绘画,能接受的可以买。
    zicheqingluo
        32
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       160 天前
    又看了华为 mate60 与小米 14pro 的队医,确实还不如 p70 ,但很多博主不敢正面说华为不行,都是先硬夸,然后在委婉的指出问题,最后回归中心,就是品牌影响力大于拍照实力,认为好的不一定好。现在 up 主的求生欲都这么强了吗
    zicheqingluo
        33
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       160 天前
    夜景能力小米 14u>苹果 15promax>华为*
    zicheqingluo
        34
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       160 天前
    防抖能力,小米碾压华为,不是一个段位的没法比
    zicheqingluo
        35
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       160 天前
    不得不说,vivo 的 u 确实机身最薄最好看,摄像头突起也小,小米的突起大。o v 已经不是以前的 ov 了,有点东西,小米不是以前的小米了,贵了。华为还是哪个华为,定价不坑外国人
    zicheqingluo
        36
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       160 天前
    oppo x7 u 拍人是不错,小米默认情况下拍人曝光强,vivo 部分情况下强
    zicheqingluo
        37
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       160 天前
    价格 oppo<mi<viwo<华为,实际上华为拍照没有竞争力了
    zicheqingluo
        38
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       160 天前
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    zicheqingluo
        40
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       160 天前
    oppo 拍照最写实,vivo 人像美颜最好,小米风景、人文最好。
    oppo 最便宜性价比最高
    squallapp
        41
    squallapp  
       160 天前 via Android
    dxomark 专业排名就在哪里啊,别人测试比 b 站 UP 主要专业的多吧,现在 p70 拍照就是第一啊。
    zicheqingluo
        42
    zicheqingluo  
    OP
       159 天前
    @squallapp 建议看一下真实的照片拍出来什么效果再说 p70 第一的结论,一定会改变的,华为无论是硬件还是徕卡、蔡司等专业加持都没有,但还是以照片为准。也可以看看评论区,弹幕看看大众怎么看。
    hGaHLRyC
        43
    hGaHLRyC  
       159 天前
    折叠屏反正我是真不行,强迫症受不了折痕。
    看测评小米 14u 还挺好的,直出色彩很讨喜。
    vivo 的 x100pro 也不错,而且 vivo 售后是最好的。
    senl
        44
    senl  
       158 天前
    @zicheqingluo 上面回答已经描述了,跟 5G 是一个意思,硬件支持+通信商套餐,而且只有电信有这个卫星套餐,跟哪个牌子没关系,所以我说了绝大部分是不会需要的,你可以去了解一下,那个套餐不便宜的
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