@FrankHB #87 到底是谁在杠，你语文没学好吧。学好语文看清楚别人再说什么再说话，什么叫偷换概念，看看释义再说话，我的观点很稳定，你在不同句子里读出不同意思了，就是理解能力的问题了。为什么有释义的词汇，你们一个两个都能杠。

@russian 你还真的是角度刁钻，不管是百度百科，中文维基都写着很好理解简单明了的阐述的很清楚怎么算软件工程师了，唯独英文维基的第一句说的比较含糊。但是英文危机你稍微往下拖动一下，底下有关于适用性的阐述。
你稍微看一眼也不至于不能明白，你真的是为了不明白而不明白呢。
适用性写得很清楚了光写代码并不能称为软件工程师，你咋就不看呢。
最后一次回复你了，你已经在我的视角里是杠精了，英文维基关于适用性的阐述也给你复制过来了，如果还不明白，还是之前的建议，百度，或者 google 或者维基百科，只要你想明白，看了就能明白，你如果一直不想明白，总能在里面找到一句含糊的话，让你自己“不明白”。

> Suitability of the term
One could argue that software engineering implies a certain level of academic training, professional discipline, adherence to formal processes, and especially legal liability that often are not applied in cases of software development. A common analogy is that working in construction does not make one a civil engineer, and so writing code does not make one a software engineer. Furthermore, because computing doesn't utilize the methods of mathematical physics common to all conventional engineering disciplines, it is more appropriate to call those engaged in this occupation as software developers or similar.

In 1978, computer scientist E. W. Dijkstra wrote in a paper that the coining of the term software engineer was not useful since it was an inappropriate analogy:
The existence of the mere term has been the base of a number of extremely shallow — and false — analogies, which just confuse the issue... Computers are such exceptional gadgets that there is good reason to assume that most analogies with other disciplines are too shallow to be of any positive value, are even so shallow that they are only confusing.[12]

In each of the last few decades, at least one radical new approach has entered the mainstream of software development (e.g. Structured Programming, Object Orientation), implying that the field is still changing too rapidly to be considered an engineering discipline. Proponents argue that the supposedly radical new approaches are evolutionary rather than revolutionary.[citation needed]

Individual commentators have disagreed sharply on how to define software engineering or its legitimacy as an engineering discipline. David Parnas has said that software engineering is, in fact, a form of engineering.[13][14] Steve McConnell has said that it is not, but that it should be.[15] Donald Knuth has said that programming is an art and a science.[16] Edsger W. Dijkstra claimed that the terms software engineering and software engineer have been misused[improper synthesis?] and should be considered harmful, particularly in the United States.[17]

@russian #47 当然有假的，不管国内外都有很多自称软件工程师或者自以为是软件工程师但是并不满足标准的，这不就是假的么，“工程师”这个词就是职业水平评定的一种，所以需要的是评定或者考核后获得的职称。但是九成九的程序员并没有经过考核也没有获得相应职称，所以对标只能说钳工电工。
至于上面我说的所有定义都不是我下的定义，都是取自百度词条的定义，如果你觉得百度词条的定义不准，也可以看 34 楼给出的链接，也展现了其他人心里的定义。
咬文嚼字我觉得可以百度，可以 Google 可以看维基百科看定义。

@russian 你是小看了其他工种还是高看了程序员。被称为程序员的九成九都不是工程师，一般程序员只能对标钳工电工，到真正的软件工程师了才可以开始对标机械工程师，电气工程师。

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无论男女，好看就贴，不好看就不贴。

@danshendog #189 三观感人

自动驾驶的难点不在技术上，而在于出了交通事故怎么定责上。

安装体验了一下，体验并不算太美好，感觉还是个玩具，我决定等正式版再试了。

@weiqk 这是商业逻辑呀，不方便插广告就砍。。。总所周知 google 是一家广告公司。。。

定時釋放 IP，哈哈哈

創業 idea 是想不出來的，都是在做的過程中發現的，你在工作中沒有發現創業的方向，那麽說明你不適合創業。
另外，如果真有人給你具體的 idea，你都收集起來，然後知道那些 idea 都不能做就行了。

@LZSZ #67 看不懂中文麽，現在基站拆了導致的現在 3G 信號不好，當年基站沒拆的時候就是 30M 的網速。

@leafiy #56 3g 在沒拆基站以前都是 30M 的速率，你問好用嗎，當然好用啊。

主要還是不愁賣。

問就 alook